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Post by pandawdy on Oct 13, 2019 20:51:56 GMT -5
My question for people that have held actual programming jobs or even just IT related jobs.. is programming / IT on the decline?
BLS projects a 7 percent decline in programming jobs from 2018 to 2028. I guess that's not a huge number... but it's hard to imagine why this would be the case. The other night I was at Barnes and Noble looking around and noticed the IT / computer programming section for books is looking a little sparse. People aren't interested in this information anymore? Or maybe they just aren't buying books. They had exactly one book on basic and it was for visual basic. Everything else is C, C#, C++, Java or Python.
I have never held a computer programming job so I don't have any insight into this.
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Post by Chris Iverson on Oct 14, 2019 1:07:53 GMT -5
IT in general is not on the decline, no.
If you can demonstrate skill, it's probably one of the easiest fields to be placed in now. Especially hardware troubleshooting/repair work, which often can't be done remotely(and therefore, can't be outsourced/offshored).
Programming, I wouldn't say is on the decline, but isn't too much of a target for most companies, unless the main products of those companies are applications.
Any other case, for internal applications, companies are far more likely to go with existing known solutions than go through the effort of making something new, and for the stuff that has to be custom-made, it's often easier for them to contract out to a programming-focused company to have a final product made, than hire programmers themselves.
Don't get me wrong, programmers are very valuable, but not every company is going to want or have one on staff. On the other hand, I would not recommend any company try to survive in the modern world without some form of IT.
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Post by Carl Gundel on Oct 14, 2019 12:39:43 GMT -5
My question for people that have held actual programming jobs or even just IT related jobs.. is programming / IT on the decline? BLS projects a 7 percent decline in programming jobs from 2018 to 2028. I guess that's not a huge number... but it's hard to imagine why this would be the case. The other night I was at Barnes and Noble looking around and noticed the IT / computer programming section for books is looking a little sparse. People aren't interested in this information anymore? Or maybe they just aren't buying books. They had exactly one book on basic and it was for visual basic. Everything else is C, C#, C++, Java or Python. I have never held a computer programming job so I don't have any insight into this. Predicting the future is really hard to do, in any field. Programming jobs don't seem to be on the decline from where I sit. The market actually rises and falls in cycles like the economy does. People are buying programming books, but they are learning online much more than in years past.
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Post by Carl Gundel on Oct 14, 2019 12:41:50 GMT -5
Any other case, for internal applications, companies are far more likely to go with existing known solutions than go through the effort of making something new, and for the stuff that has to be custom-made, it's often easier for them to contract out to a programming-focused company to have a final product made, than hire programmers themselves. You're probably right about this. Too bad for them. In house applications are often much more optimized for a company's needs. In the 80's I pretty much revolutionized the company I worked for by writing in house software. I wish I could do that for some company again. It was a blast.
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Post by Brandon Parker on Oct 15, 2019 10:57:29 GMT -5
You're probably right about this. Too bad for them. In house applications are often much more optimized for a company's needs. In the 80's I pretty much revolutionized the company I worked for by writing in house software. I wish I could do that for some company again. It was a blast. This is something that my ex-employer could not see either. I started an application there in 2010, and now, since I am no longer there, they are hard-pressed to get something to replace it due to the intricacies of dealing with the company's specific data/needs. Unfortunately, it was a layoff situation that was orchestrated by an outside consulting agency and all remote-employees were cut no matter what they brought to the table. It has now been six months since the 1/3 layoff, and they are no closer to getting anything new than when I first proposed the application. The last software suite they purchased as a "canned" unit ended up costing more than $3.5 Million just to work for about half of the company with less than half of the functionality. They are still paying to have custom modules written for that "off-the-shelf" product. It is sad ... for them ... {:0) Brandon Parker
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